Friday, January 8, 2010

How do Jehovah's witnesses manage to look at Acts Chapter 15 in isolation?

They ban transfusion on account of two or three verses in Acts chapter 15.Do they read Matthew 15:vs11, I Corinthians 8, Acts 10:vs14and 15,ITim 4:vs3,4,5.


Why do they ignore Johns Gospel Chapters 14,15,16 which make it obvious that the Holy Spirit is a person.How do Jehovah's witnesses manage to look at Acts Chapter 15 in isolation?
We do not look at any part of the Bible in isolation.





That is why we are not duped into believing the lie that God is 3-in-1 like my hair shampoo.





And BTW- we could use the same argument against you-





Matthew 15:vs11 is just ONE verse out of Matthew Chapter 15.





Acts 10:vs14,15 is just TWO verses out of Acts Chapter 10.





1 Tim 4:vs3,4,5 is just THREE verses out of 1 Timothy Chapter 4.





See?





I always wanted to use this phrase- tu quoque.





Thanks for the opportunity.





I am a Christian, one of Jehovah's Witnesses.How do Jehovah's witnesses manage to look at Acts Chapter 15 in isolation?
Actually, there are several passages in the Bible that condemn the consumption of blood.:





Acts 15:28, 29


Genesis 9:4


Leviticus 7:26


Leviticus 17:10-14


Leviticus 19:


Deuteronomy 12:16, 23-25


1 Samuel 14:33





It is clear that God forbids the misuse of blood.





As far as the holy spirit goes, the reason the holy spirit is referred to as ';he'; in John 16 is because the word ';helper'; in the Greek lanuage is masculine. It would only make sense that John would use proper grammer and asign the masculine pronoun ';he'; to ';helper';. In the same way, in Spanish, ';libro'; (book) is masculine, but that doesn't make it a person.
It seems to me that there is limited value in using Biblical texts to show Jehovah's Witnesses their error since they have been indoctrinated by the Watchtower Organisation and can do nothing outside of the Watchtower's say so.





In that they are enslaved by that Organisation which also teaches and warns them that any who speak differently from them is of Satan or is an attack against God.





Clearly they are dupes of the Organisation and attempts to show them the truth tends to strengthen them in their loyalty and bondage to the Watchtower.





In a manner of speaking the Watchtower has substituted itself for the role of the Holy Spirit Who they consequently have to deny.





We can see that the Watchtower has made numerous prophecies that have not come true and also that they have made numerous contradictions in their teaching.





The Watchtower cannot therefore be a prophet of God nor be God's channel of truth on Earth as Deuteronomy 18 clearly teaches.





I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.


And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.


But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.


And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken?





When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.











If they can be shown that the Watchtower has in fact made prophecies that have not come true and that it has in fact contradicted itself in its teaching - as in fact it clearly has - then there is hope that the Jehovah's Witness might be brought to see the truth.





The Jehovah's Witnesses are not Christian since they do not have the Spirit of Christ indwelling and in fact deny Him as your question highlights.





But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.





And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;


Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.


I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.








But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
How many times does the Bible mention Adultery?Does that mean that it is not valid?The law was given to the Israelites as a protection,over 600 laws were given.You can not pick and choose if you believe in Go'ds commandment but you have to trust in him that it is for your own good.All the consequences By not obeying his law brought death to millions of people and more to come.How can we argue with God's decision went he is the Creator of every living cell on earth?We have a brochure that explain are stand and it is base on the Bible if you make research and if you are truly interested in the subject then you can order the brochure';How can blood save your life?'; WWW.Watchtower.org.Then you will have more knowledge on the subject.Hope that was help full to you.
Jehovah's Witnesses deny most of the basic doctrines of Christianity. Former Witnesses point out several basic denials:





They claim:





1. Jesus Christ is not God. Rather, he is Michael the archangel.


2. The Holy Spirit is not a person, but an ';active force.'; J.W.'s are unitarians, denying the Trinity.


3. When you're dead, you're dead. Man has no eternal soul, any more than animals.


4. Jesus Christ was not raised bodily from the grave, but was recreated as a new ';spirit body.';


5. Jesus returned invisibly in 1914. There is no ';visible coming'; planned in the future.


6. There is no hell. Just like animals, when we die, it is over.


7. Only 144,000 people achieve heaven. The rest, faithful Witnesses who have died, will be recreated on earth during the kingdom of the ';New World.';





Focusing on the Old Testament, their system is a legalistic one. They forbid blood transfusions (they say that is eating blood). They also consider any salute to a flag as worship of that flag, and therefore prohibited. They don't vote, hold public office or serve in the military.





Consumed with preparing for a ';New World,'; they know nothing of ';New Life'; in Jesus Christ.





Shame ain't it?
Just the same as Proverbs 1:20-33 makes it obvious that wisdom is really a person? It calls wisdom ';she';.





What none of the Gospels ever says, nor any other part of the Bible, is that holy spirit is God at all. Why do you say it?





Best regards,


Michael
Have you never lost something and found it where you looked before?


The eyes don't see something until the brain acknowledges it is there.


So you only see what you want to see no matter what logic or other people tell you.
Hello. I am not a Jehovah witness, but In Acts 15 do not talk about transfusion they talk about circumcised according to the law of moses. The fore Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension they disputed. Please go back and check your bible.
How is the catholic church removes the 2nd commandment?
The OT law prohibited not only the eating of blood, but also the eating of many kinds of meat, such as pork and shellfish. These foods are not evil in themselves. God simply prohibited them as a way of instructing the Israelites on religious matters: the need to be spiritually clean; that God is the author of all life; and that our redemption would be accomplished by the shedding of blood. In the NT, we have the fullness of God's Revelation. He now speaks to us directly rather than catechizing us through the symobos of the OT. (see Hebrews 1:1-2).


How do we explain the prohibition of blood in Acts 15? Although the OT Covenant was no longer in effect, the early Church realized how difficult it was for Jewish Christians to abandon the old precepts. The church also recognized that after 1300 years of avoiding certain foods because of the OT Law, these foods were norepulsivee through cultural conditioning. The early Church made a prudent pastoral decision: to allow the Jewish Christians to maintain, purely as disciplines, those parts of the OT Law that could be reconciled with the NT. So while animalsacrificess and the OTpriesthoodd could not be continued, circumcision and the dietary laws were allowed as long as they were notpractisedd as if they were required by the NT Covenant.


The Council of Jerusalem, described in Acts 15, was called to deal with the Judaizers. These were Jewish Christians who insisted that Gentile converts must keep both the OT and NT laws. The council made it clear that Christians were not bound to the OT ceremonial law. Neither could the Jewish Christians impose their disciplines(such as ciurcumcision and dietary laws) on the Gentile converts.


However, the council did impose three dietary restrcitions on the Gentiles: they were not to eat blood, strangled animals, or food offered to idols. These restrictions were established becaues of two concerns: (1) Jewish Christians found these foods revolting, and the early Church wanted both Jewish and Gentile Christians to join in the Christian apage (love ) meals; (2) these food were often associated with pagan rituals.


Once these concerns no longer existed, the early Church lifted the restrictions. In 1 Corth 10, St. Paul tells the Christians not to be concerned if some of the food served to them had been offered to idols. Only if someone makes an issue of it are they to avoid food sacrificed to idols so as not to scandalize those with weak consciences. This shows that these three dietary laws were only regulations that could be modified or even discarded as condtions changed. Today, JW's have no problems buying regular meat at the supermarket; yet this meat contains blood! Orthodox Jews will only buy kosher meat that was specially processed to remove the blood.


Christians understand that the OT dietary laws are no longer in effect, and that the dietary restructions of Acts 15 were discarded once they no longer served a purpose. Christians should have no concerns today about eating rare steaks or strangled chickens. Since JWs eat blood in their meats( they don't buy kosher meats), their refusal to accept blood transfustion is inconsistent as well as unbiblical. The JWs used to forbid vaccinations and organ transplants, but now they allow bloth. JWs may someday lift their restrirctions on blood transfusions as well.
There are no hard and fast rules where the bible is concerned and there is no proof that it's contents are true. It's only a belief no matter what reigion you are.

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